On this very meta episode Steven Shinder returns to help Ben discuss their “Top Five Podcasts”. The break down an assortment of listener submitted lists which include a ton of intriguing podcasts covering topics such as pop culture, true crime, audio dramas & more. Later Ben and Steven dive into their own lists revealing their personal favorite shows, as well as a few honorable mentions. In addition they also touch on some of the most recent news, including Star Trek Discovery season 4 starting production, Pixar’s Soul coming to Disney+, Spider-Man 3 possibly including all three live-action Spider-Men, and so much more. Don’t miss listening to this one!